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	<title>Comments on: The Glorious Twelfth</title>
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	<description>I am not a has-been. I am a will be. Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grannymar</title>
		<link>http://www.grannymar.com/blog/2008/07/16/the-glorious-twelfth/#comment-10059</link>
		<dc:creator>Grannymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome Aidan.  

I am not familiar with the blog you mention but will now try to remedy that situation.</description>
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<p>I am not familiar with the blog you mention but will now try to remedy that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Aidan</title>
		<link>http://www.grannymar.com/blog/2008/07/16/the-glorious-twelfth/#comment-10057</link>
		<dc:creator>Aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this post through the link on Alan's blog, another very interesting view on the 12th. When I lived in the north I got out of there on the 12th but I would have loved to have seen the big day with my own eyes. 
I don't know if you have seen the blog Redemption's Son but there is a series of posts there about the marching season from an OO perspective and it seems from reading that that there is an undesirable element of hangers-on that really ruin the whole thing.
It is hard for people from the south (like myself) to empathize with the sectarian, Empire British nature of the OO. That's why I think that they should embrace the cultural event idea.
About 'The Sash', The Wolfe Tones had it on one of their first albums and it was the first song they played live on radio I believe so it didn't always have negative connotations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this post through the link on Alan&#8217;s blog, another very interesting view on the 12th. When I lived in the north I got out of there on the 12th but I would have loved to have seen the big day with my own eyes.<br />
I don&#8217;t know if you have seen the blog Redemption&#8217;s Son but there is a series of posts there about the marching season from an OO perspective and it seems from reading that that there is an undesirable element of hangers-on that really ruin the whole thing.<br />
It is hard for people from the south (like myself) to empathize with the sectarian, Empire British nature of the OO. That&#8217;s why I think that they should embrace the cultural event idea.<br />
About &#8216;The Sash&#8217;, The Wolfe Tones had it on one of their first albums and it was the first song they played live on radio I believe so it didn&#8217;t always have negative connotations.</p>
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		<title>By: Grannymar</title>
		<link>http://www.grannymar.com/blog/2008/07/16/the-glorious-twelfth/#comment-10010</link>
		<dc:creator>Grannymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Magpie

The bands you watched were at the main parade in Belfast.  Other parades take place in towns across the province.  The local Lodges have fless money to pay these large bands so alas the talent is sometimes missing.

I agree with you about th glass houses.

I think burgers, chips and beer are more the fare than baked potatoes</description>
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<p>The bands you watched were at the main parade in Belfast.  Other parades take place in towns across the province.  The local Lodges have fless money to pay these large bands so alas the talent is sometimes missing.</p>
<p>I agree with you about th glass houses.</p>
<p>I think burgers, chips and beer are more the fare than baked potatoes</p>
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		<title>By: Magpie11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magpie11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm......over here I have my own feelings about these religious differences...and the claims of some to be "loyal". 

I found watching the videos alternately boring and frightening..... tho' two bands seemed to play well in my opinion..one played a lively tune that set my feet tapping (didn't recognise it) and another played The Yellow Rose of Texas very musically and that set my feet tapping too.

I read every thing you directed us to GM....and more ... and am none the wiser.....as an outsider looking in I am filled with sadness....yet... I cannot help but remember the effigies of the Pope and Guy Fawkes that are burned over here on 5th November and think then of Glass Houses.......

But I do love a good bonfire... who bakes the potatoes? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm&#8230;&#8230;over here I have my own feelings about these religious differences&#8230;and the claims of some to be &#8220;loyal&#8221;. </p>
<p>I found watching the videos alternately boring and frightening&#8230;.. tho&#8217; two bands seemed to play well in my opinion..one played a lively tune that set my feet tapping (didn&#8217;t recognise it) and another played The Yellow Rose of Texas very musically and that set my feet tapping too.</p>
<p>I read every thing you directed us to GM&#8230;.and more &#8230; and am none the wiser&#8230;..as an outsider looking in I am filled with sadness&#8230;.yet&#8230; I cannot help but remember the effigies of the Pope and Guy Fawkes that are burned over here on 5th November and think then of Glass Houses&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>But I do love a good bonfire&#8230; who bakes the potatoes? <img src='http://www.grannymar.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Grannymar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grannymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WWW 

Nowadays no matter what gathering is for rent a mob are never very far away.</description>
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<p>Nowadays no matter what gathering is for rent a mob are never very far away.</p>
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		<title>By: wisewebwoman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, GM, these occasions bring out the worst of the messers and blackguards, as my dear Papa used to call them. We were swept up in a 12th a few years ago, out in Bangor. We had forgotten the date and were quite alarmed at the near savagery displayed by the louts and the awful lung-killing smoke of the fires.
Something frighteningly primitive about these displays.
XO
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, GM, these occasions bring out the worst of the messers and blackguards, as my dear Papa used to call them. We were swept up in a 12th a few years ago, out in Bangor. We had forgotten the date and were quite alarmed at the near savagery displayed by the louts and the awful lung-killing smoke of the fires.<br />
Something frighteningly primitive about these displays.<br />
XO<br />
WWW</p>
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		<title>By: Grannymar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grannymar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Judy -  :D

@Baino - I wish they would bring in that law here.

@Roy - They may have a good song, pity they don't learn to sing it properly.</description>
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<p>@Baino - I wish they would bring in that law here.</p>
<p>@Roy - They may have a good song, pity they don&#8217;t learn to sing it properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy (irish taxi)</title>
		<link>http://www.grannymar.com/blog/2008/07/16/the-glorious-twelfth/#comment-9946</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy (irish taxi)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reckon the orangemen got the best song with the Sash</description>
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		<title>By: Baino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. I too had thought the bonfire days were long gone and as for burning rubber tyres, here it is a crime . .yep, illegal! It all seems a big excuse for a pissup with little commemoration . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. I too had thought the bonfire days were long gone and as for burning rubber tyres, here it is a crime . .yep, illegal! It all seems a big excuse for a pissup with little commemoration . . .</p>
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		<title>By: kenju</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you about the flag, Grannymar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about the flag, Grannymar!</p>
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